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Mars Phoenix Lander

(Photos: NASA/JPL/University of Arizona)

You may have heard in the news about the Phoenix lander which just landed near the North Pole of Mars this past Sunday afternoon (Pacific time on Earth). The Phoenix has sent us never-before-seen images of the surface of Mars near its North Pole.

As a warmup problem, we want to find out the following information:

1. For Bow: If the speed of light is ~3E08 m/s, how many minutes will it take radio signals from the Mars Phoenix lander to reach Earth? The lander is currently 171 million miles away from Earth.

2. For Polly: If the Mars Phoenix lander traveled 420 million miles to get to Mars from Earth, and it traveled at 45,000 miles per hour, how many days or months (as appropriate) did it take the lander to travel to Mars?

3.  For Bow:  What if the Mars Phoenix lander were able to fly straight from the Earth to Mars at 45,000 miles per hour without having to take any “slingshot” orbital paths (i.e. it only travels 171 million miles), how long would it take the lander to travel to Mars?

Post your solution as a comment to this post.

Here is a view of Mars’ North Pole from May 19th, 2008. Click on the image for an article that shows a cool animation!

(Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/University of Arizona/MSSS )

May 27, 2008 - Posted by mmiller81 | Assignments | | 54 Comments

54 Comments »

  1. The speed of light = 299 792 458 m / s.

    Comment by prosperousturtle | May 27, 2008

  2. the signal should reach earth 15 minutes after it is sent

    Comment by Jordan | May 27, 2008

  3. It would take less than a second for radio signals to be sent.
    Using real speed of light: 0.9179611313 seconds.
    Using estimate: about 0.91732608

    Tim

    Comment by prosperousturtle | May 27, 2008

  4. This is Donel/Jacob’s answer:

    0.570394603 seconds

    Comment by giggityguitar | May 27, 2008

  5. it would be ABOUT 0.6 seconds

    more accurate would be like .54847…….

    Comment by Sean | May 27, 2008

  6. A little less than a second, about .9.

    Comment by Autumn | May 27, 2008

  7. (273 588 480 000 m) / (3E8 (m / s)) = 15.19936 minutes

    Comment by caitlin | May 27, 2008

  8. EDITTTT!!!

    15 Minutes about

    Comment by Sean | May 27, 2008

  9. Got the same as Jordan about 15 minutes

    Comment by Chris H | May 27, 2008

  10. Woops, I mean 15.2833333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333∞ minutes

    Comment by giggityguitar | May 27, 2008

  11. 1.09 sзсоиds. I think…

    Comment by John | May 27, 2008

  12. Sorry, dashboard unit converter cut off some digits.
    It would take a little over 15 minutes and 17 seconds
    Using real speed of light=917.9611316306 seconds=15.29935219384 minutes.
    Using estimate=917.32608 seconds=15.288768 minutes

    Tim

    Comment by prosperousturtle | May 27, 2008

  13. 15 minutes about

    Comment by fixthatbug | May 27, 2008

  14. about 15 minutes. This is Autum’s and Dominic’s comment

    Comment by leeroyjenkinswow | May 27, 2008

  15. I got about 13 months (420 000 000 mi / 45 000 mi/hr / 24 / 30 = 12.962962… months)

    Comment by Matt | May 28, 2008

  16. 12.9, aka 13 months. The first person to accuse me of cheating will be unhappy they did.

    ~Nat

    Comment by Nat | May 28, 2008

  17. First you take (42000000 mi) and “X” by (45000 mi/h). Then you divide that answer by 24 hours, which will give you about 389 days. Now you take that number and divide it by the number of days in a month (aprox: 30), and you will get about 13 months. If this data is faulty, then let me know.

    Comment by Frost Guerilla | May 28, 2008

  18. After doing the equations I got an answer of about 13 months

    Comment by JUSTUS | May 28, 2008

  19. I got 12.9 months, or 388 days, or 9,333 hours

    Comment by Zach | May 28, 2008

  20. It took about 13 months for the lander to get there

    Comment by alex b | May 28, 2008

  21. It should be around 13 months

    Comment by Jessica | May 28, 2008

  22. [45,000mph*24hrs=1,080,000m/days]
    [420,000,000/1,080,000=388.8 days or about 13 months]
    Frankie And Peter

    Comment by Peter Figlioli | May 28, 2008

  23. 45,000 mph*24hrs=1,080,000m/days
    420,000,000/1,080,000

    = 388.8 days or about 13 months

    Comment by Jessica | May 28, 2008

  24. After doing the equation I got 13 months. I did this by dividing 420000000 miles by 45000 mph and got about 9333 hours. I then divided 9333 hours by 24 hours to get days and got 388 days. I then divided 388 days by 30 days to get months and got about 13 months. That is how I got my answer.

    Comment by JUSTUS | May 28, 2008

  25. you divide 420 million by 45000
    you get 9333
    then divide by 24
    you get 388
    then divide by 30

    and the answer is 13

    it takes 13 months
    WOOOHOOO
    i figured it out

    *does victory dance*

    Comment by jonathan quintana | May 28, 2008

  26. 420,000,000/45,000=9,333 hours, 388 days, 13 months.

    Comment by Keeley | May 28, 2008

  27. it would take 388.7 days and that is about 12 to 13 months
    45,0008*24hours=1,080,000m/days
    420,000,000/1,080,000

    Comment by taylor walker | May 28, 2008

  28. first convert the number of miles (171000000ml) to meters (275,310,000,000m)

    then divide 275,310,000,000m by 300000000 and you will get 917.7s

    then take 917.7 and dived by 60 and you will get 15.29min

    wich is how long it will take for a radio signal to reach mars from earth

    Comment by james H. | May 28, 2008

  29. If the Mars Phoenix lander traveled 420 million miles to get to Mars from Earth, and it traveled at 45,000 miles per hour, how many days or months (as appropriate) did it take the lander to travel to Mars?

    (45,000*24hrs = 1,080,000 m/days)
    (420,000,000/1,080,000 = 388.8 days -OR- 12.9 months
    EST. ~ 13 months

    It wll take about 13 months for the lander to reach mars.

    Comment by jasmine | May 28, 2008

  30. Time=420000000/45000/24/30=12.9 months

    it will take about 13 months to reach mars.

    Comment by chad cooley | May 28, 2008

  31. It would take 13 months.

    Comment by Travis | May 28, 2008

  32. 1st step took “420 000 000 / 45 000 = 9 333.33333″
    step two “9333.33333 / 24 = 388.888889″
    step 3 “388.888889 / 30 = 12.962963″
    answer= 12.962963 round to
    13-ish days

    Comment by curtis | May 28, 2008

  33. 13 months

    Comment by Rachelle Bales | May 28, 2008

  34. time=dist speed

    mouths/around 13

    420000000/45000/24/30= 12.9

    it will take around 13 mouths

    Comment by jamal brigman | May 28, 2008

  35. Jonathan, I’m dancing a victory dance too!
    Justus, I really like the way you showed your steps. Curtis, you too. Jasmine, your solution is really clear. I think 13 months is a pretty good estimate. I wonder what NASA says?

    Comment by mmiller81 | May 28, 2008

  36. divide 420,000,000 by 45,000.

    you will get 9,333 (number of hours) divide that by 24 and you will get 389

    take your number of days (389) and divide by 30 and you will get 12.9

    which is the number of months it took the lander to get to mars

    Comment by james H. | May 28, 2008

  37. It took about 13 months for the lander to land

    Comment by Jamie | May 28, 2008

  38. Convert 300 million m/s to mi/min. With a simple unit conversion, this turns out to be 11,187,060 mi/min. Then you divide by the distance, 171 million, and that is the answer. It would take 15 minutes for the radio waves to get to Earth.

    Comment by Jessie | May 28, 2008

  39. For a radio signal from Mars to reach Earth, it should take approximately 15 minutes to reach us. We got this by dividing 300 million meters/second by 1609 miles/meters. This then equaled 186451 mi/s which you would multiply by 60s/min. We then get 11,187,060 mi/min which we would divide by 171 million (the number of miles from Mars to Earth) and we would get the answer 15.3. Rounding, it takes about 15 minutes for a radio signal to reach Earth from Mars.

    Comment by Lissy | May 28, 2008

  40. The SPEED OF LIGHT

    Comment by NICK | May 28, 2008

  41. It would take 5.2 months.

    Comment by Jessie | May 28, 2008

  42. Time= distance/speed.
    Distance= 171 million miles.
    Time= 45,000 mi/hr
    Time=171 million miles/45,000 mi/hr.
    Time= 5.2 months= 158 days= 3800 hours.

    Comment by Jessie | May 28, 2008

  43. Second warmup for Bow: about 158 days, or 3800 hours. 171,000,000m/45,000mph=3800 hours.

    Comment by prosperousturtle | May 28, 2008

  44. I believe that my answer for the first question is about 15 minutes.

    Comment by hightechhighmotocross9493 | May 28, 2008

  45. It would take about 158 days (theoretically)

    Comment by Jacob Richey | May 28, 2008

  46. For the Mars Phoenix Lander to reach Mars from Earth as it travels 45,000 miles/hour and it is 171 million miles to the moon it would take 3,800 hours or 158 days, or 5 months. TO get this you would divide the miles (171 million) by the speed (45,000 miles/hour) then you would get the hours. Dividing the answer (3800) by the hours per day (24) then you would get 158 days. Finally you would divide 158 days by the days per month (30) to get the answer; 5 months to get from Earth to Mars.

    Comment by Lissy | May 28, 2008

  47. For the second question it would probably be about this equation.

    time=distance/speed
    distance equals 171 million miles away
    time would be 45,000 mph
    so the answer would be 3800 hours
    or 158 or 5.2 months

    Comment by hightechhighmotocross9493 | May 28, 2008

  48. It would take 3800 hours.

    3800 hours/24 hours = 158 days.

    158 days/12 is about 4 months and 2 days.

    Comment by giggityguitar | May 28, 2008

  49. d/s= convert (171000000ml) to meters (275,310,000,000m)
    divide 275,310,000,000m by 300000000 = 917.7s/ 60 =
    15.29min that is the answer to find out how long
    it will take for a radio signal to reach mars from earth

    Comment by caitlin oneill | May 28, 2008

  50. 171000000 million miles divided by 45000 miles/hour=3800 hours

    then you divide what you got by 24 hours per day =158.33 days

    then divide that by 30 hours per month=5.27months

    Comment by fixthatbug | May 28, 2008

  51. About 4 months and 2 days, my answer was basically the same as Donel’s

    Comment by der7king | May 28, 2008

  52. because time = distance divided by speed…

    Aproximately 158 days (rounded up) or 3800 hours.
    so that would be 4 months and 4 days

    Comment by Sean | May 28, 2008

  53. 171 000 000 / 45 000 = 3800

    Comment by caitlin oneill | May 28, 2008

  54. I got 5 months and 6 days. 171,000,000/4500=3800 hours then I converted it to months and days.

    Comment by rememberthenick | May 28, 2008


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